{"id":242565,"date":"2024-07-12T10:41:39","date_gmt":"2024-07-12T10:41:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/2024\/07\/12\/bill-gross-pimco-founder-says-elon-musks-tesla-is-a-meme-stock\/"},"modified":"2025-06-25T17:14:51","modified_gmt":"2025-06-25T17:14:51","slug":"bill-gross-pimco-founder-says-elon-musks-tesla-is-a-meme-stock","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/2024\/07\/12\/bill-gross-pimco-founder-says-elon-musks-tesla-is-a-meme-stock\/","title":{"rendered":"Bill Gross: PIMCO founder says Elon Musk&#8217;s Tesla is a meme stock"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> [ad_1]<br \/>\n<br \/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/img-assets\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/GettyImages-534301656-e1720694521165.jpg?w=2048\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Elon Musk has long enjoyed a loyal band of <a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/company\/tesla\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Go to https:\/\/fortune.com\/company\/tesla\/\" class=\"sc-82aca549-0 klXAci\" rel=\"noopener\">Tesla<\/a> shareholders, who have helped boost the company to <a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/2024\/07\/07\/tesla-stock-positions-hedge-funds-trump-tariffs-woke-ev-elon-musk\/?utm_source=search&amp;utm_medium=suggested_search&amp;utm_campaign=search_link_clicks\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"Go to https:\/\/fortune.com\/2024\/07\/07\/tesla-stock-positions-hedge-funds-trump-tariffs-woke-ev-elon-musk\/?utm_source=search&amp;utm_medium=suggested_search&amp;utm_campaign=search_link_clicks\" class=\"sc-82aca549-0 klXAci\" rel=\"noopener\">stock market stardom<\/a> over the past five years. <\/p>\n<div>\n<p>However, according to Bill Gross\u2014also dubbed the \u2018Bond King\u2019\u2014this band of backers are now little more than meme stock traders: the retail investors who followed the likes of <a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/2024\/07\/01\/roaring-kitty-keith-gill-lawsuit-favorite-stocks\/?utm_source=search&amp;utm_medium=suggested_search&amp;utm_campaign=search_link_clicks\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"Go to https:\/\/fortune.com\/2024\/07\/01\/roaring-kitty-keith-gill-lawsuit-favorite-stocks\/?utm_source=search&amp;utm_medium=suggested_search&amp;utm_campaign=search_link_clicks\" class=\"sc-82aca549-0 klXAci\" rel=\"noopener\">RoaringKitty to push GameStop<\/a> shares to dizzying heights. <\/p>\n<p>The comparison between EV-maker Tesla\u2014a Magnificent 7 stock <span style=\"box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px\">that has significantly disrupted the automotive industry in recent years\u2014and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/2024\/06\/03\/gamestop-shares-jump-103-as-meme-stock-reddit-driver-deepf-value-posted-an-apparent-116-million-position-in-the-game-retailer\/?utm_source=search&amp;utm_medium=suggested_search&amp;utm_campaign=search_link_clicks\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Go to https:\/\/fortune.com\/2024\/06\/03\/gamestop-shares-jump-103-as-meme-stock-reddit-driver-deepf-value-posted-an-apparent-116-million-position-in-the-game-retailer\/?utm_source=search&amp;utm_medium=suggested_search&amp;utm_campaign=search_link_clicks\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"sc-82aca549-0 klXAci\">viral stocks like GameStop<\/a>, Blackberry, and AMC Theaters signals a wider trend in market behavior,<\/span> according to Gross.<\/p>\n<p>The bond fund billionaire, who founded investment management firm PIMCO in the 1970s, took to Musk-owned social media platform <a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/company\/twitter\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Go to https:\/\/fortune.com\/company\/twitter\/\" class=\"sc-82aca549-0 klXAci\" rel=\"noopener\">X<\/a> to share his thoughts Tuesday. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cTesla acting like a meme stock \u2014 sagging fundamentals, straight up price action,\u201d he wrote. \u201cBut then there seems to be a new meme stock every other day now. Most are pump and dump. <a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/company\/chewy\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Go to https:\/\/fortune.com\/company\/chewy\/\" class=\"sc-82aca549-0 klXAci\" rel=\"noopener\">Chewy<\/a>. Zapp. And old favorite GME.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Tesla did not immediately respond to <em>Fortune\u2019s<\/em> request for comment.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Tesla acting like a meme stock \u2014 sagging fundamentals, straight up price action.<\/p>\n<p>But then there seems to be a new meme stock every other day now.<\/p>\n<p>Most are pump and dump.<\/p>\n<p>Chewy. Zapp. And old favorite GME.<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Bill Gross (@real_bill_gross) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/real_bill_gross\/status\/1810744935064424778?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Go to https:\/\/twitter.com\/real_bill_gross\/status\/1810744935064424778?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"sc-82aca549-0 klXAci\">July 9, 2024<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> <!-- --><\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The <a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/company\/byd-2\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Go to https:\/\/fortune.com\/company\/byd-2\/\" class=\"sc-82aca549-0 klXAci\" rel=\"noopener\">BYD<\/a> issue<\/h2>\n<p>The Musk-led electric vehicle behemoth is <span style=\"box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px\">facing some tough challenges, namely staying competitive as\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/asia\/2024\/07\/08\/byd-opens-thailand-factory-rever-probe-discounts-china-ev\/?utm_source=search&amp;utm_medium=suggested_search&amp;utm_campaign=search_link_clicks\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Go to https:\/\/fortune.com\/asia\/2024\/07\/08\/byd-opens-thailand-factory-rever-probe-discounts-china-ev\/?utm_source=search&amp;utm_medium=suggested_search&amp;utm_campaign=search_link_clicks\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"sc-82aca549-0 klXAci\">cheaper, attractive alternatives flood the market<\/a><\/span> and ensuring it has the supply of parts it needs to <a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/2024\/01\/31\/billionaire-ken-griffin-tesla-byd-leapfrog-elon-musk-electric-vehicles\/?utm_source=search&amp;utm_medium=suggested_search&amp;utm_campaign=search_link_clicks\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"Go to https:\/\/fortune.com\/2024\/01\/31\/billionaire-ken-griffin-tesla-byd-leapfrog-elon-musk-electric-vehicles\/?utm_source=search&amp;utm_medium=suggested_search&amp;utm_campaign=search_link_clicks\" class=\"sc-82aca549-0 klXAci\" rel=\"noopener\">continue production at scale<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Earlier this month<span style=\"box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px\">, Austin-based Tesla exceeded analysts\u2019 expectations when it\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/ir.tesla.com\/press-release\/tesla-vehicle-production-deliveries-and-date-financial-results-webcast-second-quarter-2024\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Go to https:\/\/ir.tesla.com\/press-release\/tesla-vehicle-production-deliveries-and-date-financial-results-webcast-second-quarter-2024\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"sc-82aca549-0 klXAci\">announced Q2<\/a>\u00a0deliveries of approximately 444,000. This represented a 5% drop<\/span> from last year, which was ahead of expectations. <\/p>\n<p>Tesla\u2019s shares have increased in the week or so since the earnings call, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/search?client=safari&amp;rls=en&amp;q=tesla+share+price&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Go to https:\/\/www.google.com\/search?client=safari&amp;rls=en&amp;q=tesla+share+price&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"sc-82aca549-0 klXAci\">up approximately 14% at the time of writing<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>However, despite the reprieve <a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/company\/q2\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Go to https:\/\/fortune.com\/company\/q2\/\" class=\"sc-82aca549-0 klXAci\" rel=\"noopener\">Q2<\/a> brought, Musk and his team will still be looking over their shoulders at Chinese automaker BYD. <\/p>\n<p>In early July, the Shenzhen-based manufacturer announced a 21% rise in EV sales, which,\u00a0per Reuters calculations, equates to 426,039 cars sold between April and June.<\/p>\n<p>The Chinese manufacturer is increasingly being adopted in Western markets and <a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/2024\/05\/14\/tesla-elon-musk-ceo-compensation-pay-shareholder-vote-agm-advertising\/#\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"Go to https:\/\/fortune.com\/2024\/05\/14\/tesla-elon-musk-ceo-compensation-pay-shareholder-vote-agm-advertising\/#\" class=\"sc-82aca549-0 klXAci\" rel=\"noopener\">unlike Tesla isn\u2019t afraid of a bit of advertising<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>Take its sponsorship of the Euros soccer tournament in this summer, increasing consumers\u2019 awareness of the brand which has a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ft.com\/content\/a5cd5353-c54e-4f4c-876d-79c5c67d4777\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Go to https:\/\/www.ft.com\/content\/a5cd5353-c54e-4f4c-876d-79c5c67d4777\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"sc-82aca549-0 klXAci\">cheaper entry point than its American rival.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Tesla has begun to concede crowns in recent years. Even record sales in 2023 were not enough for the Musk entity to beat off Warren Buffett-backed BYD to secure the top spot for vehicle sales <a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/2024\/01\/02\/elon-musk-tesla-q4-production-deliveries-sales-record-byd\/\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"Go to https:\/\/fortune.com\/2024\/01\/02\/elon-musk-tesla-q4-production-deliveries-sales-record-byd\/\" class=\"sc-82aca549-0 klXAci\" rel=\"noopener\">as the year came to a close<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>In Q4 Tesla\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/ir.tesla.com\/press-release\/tesla-vehicle-production-deliveries-and-date-financial-results-webcast-fourth-quarter-2023\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Go to https:\/\/ir.tesla.com\/press-release\/tesla-vehicle-production-deliveries-and-date-financial-results-webcast-fourth-quarter-2023\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"sc-82aca549-0 klXAci\">said<\/a>\u00a0it delivered 484,507 cars to customers globally between October and December, selling nearly 1.81 million cars during 2023 for a very respectable gain of 38%.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>BYD, on the other hand, cinched the title of the world\u2019s largest EV maker that quarter by announcing it finished the fourth quarter with a record 526,400 EVs sold, delivering 1.59 million fully electric vehicles in 2023 with a 73% gain over the previous year. <\/p>\n<p>Likewise, Tesla\u2019s once seemingly unshakeable market share position has been declining in recent years, according to automotive research specialists Kelley Blue Book (KBB).<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px\">KBB reported earlier this year that in Q3 2023, Tesla\u2019s market share fell below 50% for the first time.<a href=\"https:\/\/www.kbb.com\/car-news\/putting-teslas-bad-quarter-in-perspective\/#:~:text=Tesla%20Market%20Share%20Has%20Been,market%20for%20the%20first%20time.\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Go to https:\/\/www.kbb.com\/car-news\/putting-teslas-bad-quarter-in-perspective\/#:~:text=Tesla%20Market%20Share%20Has%20Been,market%20for%20the%20first%20time.\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"sc-82aca549-0 klXAci\">\u00a0It<\/a>\u00a0was down 75% from<\/span> 2022 and 62.4% at the outset of 2023.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Tesla and AI<\/h2>\n<p>Another problem Tesla is facing is securing enough chips to power its technology\u2014and it\u2019s not alone. <\/p>\n<p>However, a factor other businesses don\u2019t have to contend with is the supply earmarked for one business being redistributed to another.<\/p>\n<p>Last month Musk, the richest person on earth worth $274 billion <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/billionaires\/profiles\/elon-r-musk\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Go to https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/billionaires\/profiles\/elon-r-musk\/\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"sc-82aca549-0 klXAci\">per the Bloomberg Billionaire\u2019s Index<\/a>, admitted to diverting Nvidia\u2019s AI chips originally destined for\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/company\/tesla\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Go to https:\/\/fortune.com\/company\/tesla\/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"sc-82aca549-0 klXAci\">Tesla<\/a>\u00a0to his latest startup xAI and social media company\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/company\/twitter\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Go to https:\/\/fortune.com\/company\/twitter\/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"sc-82aca549-0 klXAci\">X<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cTesla had no place to send the Nvidia chips to turn them on, so they would have just sat in a warehouse,\u201d he posted.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Yet the very fact Musk has such huge resources at his disposal may be a factor which holds some appeal for the Tesla shareholders who voted through his record-breaking pay package. <\/p>\n<p>After all, <a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/2024\/05\/04\/elon-musk-tesla-shares-tsla-meme-stock-valuation-ev-ai-company\/\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"Go to https:\/\/fortune.com\/2024\/05\/04\/elon-musk-tesla-shares-tsla-meme-stock-valuation-ev-ai-company\/\" class=\"sc-82aca549-0 klXAci\" rel=\"noopener\">he has told analysts<\/a> to stop viewing the EV maker as an automotive company and instead value it like a robotics or AI venture.<\/p>\n<p>While analysts are unconvinced\u2014launching criticism of <span style=\"box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px\">overpromising and underdelivering while others\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/2024\/03\/20\/wharton-professor-jeremy-siegel-tesla-magnificent-7-tesla-separation\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Go to https:\/\/fortune.com\/2024\/03\/20\/wharton-professor-jeremy-siegel-tesla-magnificent-7-tesla-separation\/\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"sc-82aca549-0 klXAci\">have speculated Tesla should be axed as a Magnificent 7 stock<\/a>\u2014the fact remains that\u00a0<\/span>the Model X maker is still in a neck-and-neck race to be the world\u2019s largest EV maker.<\/p>\n<p>With its share price is up a staggering 1,511% over the past five years, the question remains as to whether Tesla has what it needs under the bonnet (metaphorically) to stay ahead of meme stock comparisons. <\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-cy=\"subscriptionPlea\">Subscribe to the CEO Daily newsletter to get global CEO perspectives on the biggest stories in business. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.fortune.com\/newsletters\/ceo-daily?&amp;itm_source=fortune&amp;itm_medium=article_tout&amp;itm_campaign=finance\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"Go to https:\/\/www.fortune.com\/newsletters\/ceo-daily?&amp;itm_source=fortune&amp;itm_medium=article_tout&amp;itm_campaign=finance\" class=\"sc-82aca549-0 klXAci\" rel=\"noopener\">Sign up for free<\/a>.<\/div>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><br \/>\n<br \/>[ad_2]<br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/2024\/07\/12\/bill-gross-tesla-meme-stock\/\">Source link 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