{"id":226527,"date":"2024-05-31T12:55:07","date_gmt":"2024-05-31T12:55:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/2024\/05\/31\/ecash-makes-bitcoin-and-fiat-private-with-calles-cashu\/"},"modified":"2025-06-25T17:18:19","modified_gmt":"2025-06-25T17:18:19","slug":"ecash-makes-bitcoin-and-fiat-private-with-calles-cashu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/2024\/05\/31\/ecash-makes-bitcoin-and-fiat-private-with-calles-cashu\/","title":{"rendered":"Ecash Makes Bitcoin (And Fiat) Private With Calle\u2019s Cashu"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> [ad_1]<br \/>\n<br \/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/bitcoinmagazine.com\/.image\/c_fit%2Ch_800%2Cw_1200\/MjA2NTc0OTgzNzg1MjI3NzEw\/cashu_article_preview-v1.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Editor\u2019s note: <\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/cashu.space\/\"><em>Cashu<\/em><\/a><em> is a protocol, not a company.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Founders: <\/strong>Calle<\/p>\n<p><strong>Date Founded:<\/strong> October 2022<\/p>\n<p><strong>Location of Headquarters:<\/strong> Remote<\/p>\n<p><strong>Amount of Bitcoin Held in Treasury:<\/strong> N\/A<\/p>\n<p><strong>Number of Employees:<\/strong> 20-30 open-source developers<\/p>\n<p><strong>Website:<\/strong>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/cashu.space\/\">https:\/\/cashu.space\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Public or Private?<\/strong> N\/A<\/p>\n<p>Of Bitcoin\u2019s many notable properties, privacy isn\u2019t one of them.<\/p>\n<p>In fact, the transparency of the Bitcoin <a href=\"https:\/\/bitcoinmagazine.com\/guides\/what-is-blockchain\">blockchain<\/a> contrasts starkly with the privacy that <a href=\"https:\/\/bitcoinmagazine.com\/culture\/genesis-files-how-david-chaums-ecash-spawned-cypherpunk-dream\">Chaumian ecash<\/a>, a form of digital cash created by legendary cryptographer Dr. David Chaum in 1982, offers.<\/p>\n<p>So, what do these two technologies have to do with one another?<\/p>\n<p>Well, 40 years after the invention of ecash and after a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.investopedia.com\/terms\/e\/ecash.asp\">failed attempt<\/a> to integrate it into the traditional financial infrastructure in the 1990s, a developer who goes by the pseudonym \u201cCalle\u201d found a place for the technology within the Bitcoin ecosystem.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cEcash was waiting for Bitcoin as a foundational layer,\u201d Calle told Bitcoin Magazine. \u201cBitcoin represents a permissionless system on which anyone can build financial innovation without having to consult the big banks. It\u2019s just a way better environment to experiment with this technology.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Calle has been innovating with this technology via <a href=\"https:\/\/cashu.space\/\">Cashu<\/a>, a free and open-source ecash protocol he released into the world in October 2022. With Cashu, users get the best of both the Bitcoin and Chaumian ecash worlds.<\/p>\n<p>And while readers of this publication are likely already familiar with <a href=\"https:\/\/bitcoinmagazine.com\/guides\/what-is-bitcoin#:~:text=When%20users%20send%20or%20receive,stores%20valid%2C%20yet%20unconfirmed%20transactions.\">how Bitcoin works<\/a>, ecash may be a new concept.<\/p>\n<h2>What Is Ecash?<\/h2>\n<p>Ecash is a bearer asset that can be transferred peer-to-peer, much like bitcoin.<\/p>\n<p>However, a key difference between ecash and bitcoin is that bitcoin exists on a ledger, whereas ecash lives on its holder\u2019s device.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cEcash is for us Bitcoiners a very alien concept because it flips the concept of a ledger on its head,\u201d explained Calle.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn an ecash system, the state of who owns what is determined by who has ecash in their pockets, not \u2018What does this database say about who has what?\u2019\u201d he added.<\/p>\n<p>On a more technical level, ecash tokens are essentially IOUs that are <a href=\"https:\/\/bitcoinmagazine.com\/technical\/what-is-the-future-of-bitcoin-privacy\">minted<\/a> using a technology called \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/fedimint.org\/docs\/CommonTerms\/Blind%20Signatures\">blind signatures<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>With Cashu, ordinary users can operate a mint via the Lightning Network using this <a href=\"https:\/\/bitcoinmagazine.com\/print\/how-to-guide-running-an-ecash-mint\">guide<\/a>, written by Calle.<\/p>\n<h2>Calle\u2019s Motivation In Creating Cashu<\/h2>\n<p>You might think that someone who hides their face behind a bright orange face wrap when making media appearances would be motivated by quite radical ideology, but this isn\u2019t the case with Calle.<\/p>\n<p>Instead, he\u2019s surprisingly down-to-earth, practical and highly logical. His goal in building Cashu is simply to preserve the type of privacy we\u2019ve had in financial transactions for centuries.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe used financially-private instruments for hundreds of years without realizing that we use one of the best technologies in financial privacy \u2014 physical cash,\u201d said Calle.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo, it&#8217;s not really like we&#8217;re trying to bend towards something that we haven\u2019t experienced. We\u2019re just preserving the things that we already enjoy,\u201d he added.<\/p>\n<p>Calle wants to see Chaumian ecash succeed despite the challenges it faced when Dr. Chaum tried to implement it into the traditional financial system via his company <a href=\"https:\/\/decrypt.co\/resources\/digicash-what-is-cryptocurrency-explainer\">DigiCash<\/a> in the \u201890s.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cChaumian ecash had a very big mission,\u201d said Calle.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt should have revolutionized the entire financial world. But, unfortunately, PayPal and Visa took over,\u201d he added.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI&#8217;m also being pragmatic in that I&#8217;m choosing to build this on Bitcoin because first. Bitcoin is the only world where you can start building something like this open source.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2>Ecash On Bitcoin<\/h2>\n<p>Part of Calle\u2019s objective in building Cashu on Bitcoin is to get more people using bitcoin for everyday transactions.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBitcoin needs to be carried by diverse groups of people, so we can get the normies to see the enormous potential that this technology gives,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>He also believes that in onboarding more people to Bitcoin, we should be more measured in our approach and let the technology itself do the talking.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou don\u2019t have to be against the state to love Bitcoin. You don\u2019t even have to believe in separating money from state,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIdeology spreads way more slowly than technology. Technology can explode overnight,\u201d he added.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cJust explain to people that we have found the money of the internet. This happens once only in the history of the internet, and we have crossed that line. Let&#8217;s spread that message.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>When I asked Calle if he thought the recent <a href=\"https:\/\/bitcoinmagazine.com\/business\/bitcoin-mixing-service-samourai-wallet-founders-arrested-charged-with-money-laundering\">crackdown on the Samourai Wallet developers<\/a> might put a privacy-focused protocol built on Bitcoin like Cashu in the crosshairs of regulators, he didn\u2019t respond directly, but he also didn\u2019t seem particularly worried, as he pointed out that the traditional financial system is on the verge of employing ecash, as well.<\/p>\n<h2>Ecash Beyond Bitcoin<\/h2>\n<p>\u201cIn Europe, we have very active discussions about what CBDC will look like here,\u201d explained Calle.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe ECB is willing to also look into ecash systems that provide cash-like privacy for transactions under 300 euros. The Bank of International Settlements is piloting an ecash system right now. The National Bank of Switzerland and the Swiss Parliament itself are considering ecash deployments for their national digital currencies,\u201d he added.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe see that there is a window of perfectly legal and compliant use of ecash.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>According to Calle, any levels of enhanced privacy that come with using ecash \u2014 whether on Bitcoin or within traditional financial structures \u2014 is a net positive for whoever uses the technology.<\/p>\n<h2>Who Will Use Ecash?<\/h2>\n<p>Much like Bitcoin, ecash is for everyone. More specifically, it\u2019s for those who are looking to make digital payments privately.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe Achilles heel of digital payments is that all payments are tied to identities,\u201d explained Calle. \u201cThere is no reason why you need to have KYC to read an article on NYTimes.com. These online activities should not connect to our bank account, especially if you&#8217;re reading political articles.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Nostr users are already using ecash minted on Cashu in several privacy-based chat applications, according to Calle.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s also being used as a payment to prevent denial of service (DoS) attacks in some cases, while other users are using it to pay for VPNs without disclosing their identity.<\/p>\n<p>Calle seemed most enthused, though, when he discussed how the unbanked or those who have been debanked because of their political affiliations can use ecash.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think a lot about how this can become local banking infrastructure in parts of the world where there are no banking systems and or banking systems are so prohibitive that dissidents and political activists basically cannot use any digital money,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>For such cases, Calle also described how he can create a system that issues fiat-denominated ecash backed by bitcoin.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe can build fiat payment experiences without touching the fiat banking system at all in the most private and fast and efficient way that is very close to physical cash, but it is all still built on Bitcoin. That makes me very excited because stablecoins are extremely popular and they have also taken over the popularity of bitcoin in most parts of the world,\u201d he added.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere is just a clear demand for it and fiat on ecash is the best form of fiat that I can think of.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2>Proceed With Caution<\/h2>\n<p>While there are a number of benefits to using ecash, it\u2019s also important to be careful when using the technology.<\/p>\n<p>Given that ecash is minted through a custodian, there is counterparty risk associated with using it.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI would urge anyone to be very cautious about the custodian that they choose,\u201d warned Calle, who provided a caveat to his statement, explaining how the team behind Cashu is trying to offset some of the risk associated with trusting a mint by creating a star rating system based on reputation for them.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe recommend to anyone using Cashu: Use it for very small amounts. Use it like a wallet in your pocket so that if you lose it at the bar, it won&#8217;t hurt you too much,\u201d he added.<\/p>\n<p>He went on to state very clearly that \u201cwhen a mint goes down, your sats are gone.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>There is also some risk in losing your funds if you lose the device on which they\u2019re stored, but Cashu has created a way to restore lost ecash.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn Cashu itself, there is a mechanism to restore your tokens if you lose them, similar to Bitcoin UX where you store a seed phrase,\u201d Calle explained.<\/p>\n<p>However, he also pointed out that users restore their funds through the mint and that, again, if the mint goes down, users lose their tokens permanently.<\/p>\n<h2>Call To Action<\/h2>\n<p>Calle doesn\u2019t profit from his work with Cashu. He started the project as an \u201cacademic interest\u201d and has pushed forward because he finds great purpose in developing it.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWorking on Bitcoin is a big honor and opportunity that gives life meaning, because it&#8217;s a project for humanity,\u201d he explained.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt&#8217;s beautiful to be a little part of this process, knowing that you work on something day-to-day that improves the world and doesn&#8217;t feed big mega tech companies while they\u2019re sucking the life out of your body.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>So, not only does he encourage you to use Cashu if you\u2019re looking for greater privacy in your everyday bitcoin transactions, but he invites developers \u2014 or anyone with any skills pertinent to driving Bitcoin adoption \u2014 to join him in helping to further Bitcoin adoption.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI know so many people with this desire to work on something that makes the world a better place, and Bitcoin is an open system that invites anyone with any skill level to participate,\u201d said Calle.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cFor those in the big tech industry whose work has lost meaning, this is an opportunity to work on something meaningful, global and inclusive,\u201d he added.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cJoin us as we go to the moon.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>[ad_2]<br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/bitcoinmagazine.com\/business\/ecash-makes-bitcoin-and-fiat-private-with-calle-cashu\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[ad_1] Editor\u2019s note: Cashu is a protocol, not a company. 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