{"id":222547,"date":"2024-04-10T21:42:25","date_gmt":"2024-04-10T21:42:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/2024\/04\/10\/las-vegas-monorail-breeds-baffling-brouhaha\/"},"modified":"2025-06-25T17:18:51","modified_gmt":"2025-06-25T17:18:51","slug":"las-vegas-monorail-breeds-baffling-brouhaha","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/2024\/04\/10\/las-vegas-monorail-breeds-baffling-brouhaha\/","title":{"rendered":"Las Vegas Monorail Breeds Baffling Brouhaha"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> [ad_1]<br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<div class=\"post-info-panel\">\n<div class=\"post-info-panel__author-holder\">\n<div class=\"post-info-panel__author-logo\">\n                                                                                                    <a href=\"https:\/\/www.casino.org\/vitalvegas\/all-about-us\"><br \/>\n                                                        <img alt=\"Scott Roeben\" src=\"https:\/\/www.casino.org\/vitalvegas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/author-logo-lg-88x88.png\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.casino.org\/vitalvegas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/author-logo-lg-176x176.png 2x\" class=\"avatar avatar-88 photo\" height=\"88\" width=\"88\" decoding=\"async\"\/>                                                    <\/a>\n                                                                                            <\/div>\n<div class=\"post-info-panel__author-wrapper\">\n<div class=\"post-info-panel__author-content\">\n                                            <span class=\"post-info-panel__title\"><br \/>\n                                                                                                    By <a href=\"https:\/\/www.casino.org\/vitalvegas\/all-about-us\" class=\"post-info-panel__link\">Scott Roeben<\/a>, on April 10 2024                                                                                            <\/span><\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The fact the Las Vegas conversation is so active and passionate online is both a blessing and a curse. In this case, it\u2019s just confusing.<\/p>\n<p>The Las Vegas Monorail derailed the conversation for roughly 24 hours as a flurry of Twitter posts and news stories grappled with a long-standing question: What\u2019s happening with the monorail?<\/p>\n<p>We got to the bottom of this weird affair. Or possibly caused it. Not that we have to make everything about us, probably.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_39813\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-39813\" style=\"width: 845px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazyload wp-image-39813 size-post-thumbnail-crop-845xAUTO\" style=\"border: 1px solid #000000;\" alt=\"\" width=\"845\" height=\"563\" src=\"https:\/\/www.casino.org\/vitalvegas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/future_monorail2-845x563.jpg\"\/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-39813\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Yes, we have photos of the real Las Vegas Monorail, sometimes referred to as \u201celevated rail.\u201d Boring. Fun fact: Elevated Rail was the name of our band in high school.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Where to begin.<\/p>\n<p>The first recent news story we recall seeing about the monorail was a musing in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reviewjournal.com\/news\/news-columns\/road-warrior\/from-buses-to-monorail-array-of-options-for-as-ballpark-transportation-plan-3018948\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Las Vegas Review-Journal<\/a>, \u201cFrom Buses to Monorail: Array of Options for A\u2019s Ballpark Transportation Plan.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>A story like this is an example of putting the cart before the horse, because there\u2019s a lot of uncertainty about: 1) whether the A\u2019s are moving to Las Vegas, 2) who\u2019s paying for a ballpark, 3) where the ballpark could end up if the deal falls through on the Tropicana site, 4) whether voters will have a chance to nix public financing of the ballpark, etc.<\/p>\n<p>Discussing specifics of transportation to an imaginary A\u2019s stadium in Las Vegas is akin to nailing down which color glitter your unicorn will be wearing to compete in the annual Atlantis Games.<\/p>\n<p>That story came and went with zero pandemonium.<\/p>\n<p>Then our friend Corey Levitan, longtime Las Vegas Review-Journal columnist (we try not to hold that against him) and our current colleague at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.casino.org\/news\/end-of-the-line-for-las-vegas-monorail\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Casino.org<\/a>, wrote a story with the headline, \u201cEnd of the Line for Las Vegas Monorail.\u201d It\u2019s possible Levitan\u2019s story got the ball rolling on #Monorailgate (not a real hashtag, thankfully). Levitan did not, however, say the monorail is closing anytime soon. He simply reported what the LVCVA has said all along, the monorail will be taken out of service at some point, 2030 at the latest.<\/p>\n<p>See, the company that makes the monorail cars is defunct. As in you can\u2019t get more, and parts are hard, if not impossible, to come by. These are facts, not conjecture. The monorail has a built-in expiration date.<\/p>\n<p>Following Levitan\u2019s story, our friend Las Vegas Locally posted, \u201cThere are no plans to get rid of the Las Vegas Monorail, despite rumors to the contrary.\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">There are no plans to get rid of the Las Vegas Monorail, despite rumors to the contrary. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/ui9qtPBUA2\">pic.twitter.com\/ui9qtPBUA2<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Las Vegas Locally \ud83c\udf34 (@LasVegasLocally) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/LasVegasLocally\/status\/1777093971069767843?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">April 7, 2024<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Never one to leave well enough alone, we Tweeted our slightly different take.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Despite rumors to the contrary, the LVCVA plans to dismantle the Las Vegas monorail. It was announced  in 2020, and $11 million has been set aside for taking it down. Archive: <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/FSmt9cDCD1\">https:\/\/t.co\/FSmt9cDCD1<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Vital Vegas (@VitalVegas) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/VitalVegas\/status\/1777100166409126319?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">April 7, 2024<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Please note we didn\u2019t say the monorail is closing in the near future. We simply shared the fact the LVCVA plans to dismantle the monorail.<\/p>\n<p>The LVCVA announced this four years ago, and nothing\u2019s really changed since then, other than some whimsical conjecture about resuscitating the monorail to take people to an imaginary baseball stadium.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_39814\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-39814\" style=\"width: 845px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazyload wp-image-39814 size-post-thumbnail-crop-845xAUTO\" style=\"border: 1px solid #000000;\" alt=\"\" width=\"845\" height=\"563\" src=\"https:\/\/www.casino.org\/vitalvegas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/monorail_future1-845x563.jpg\"\/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-39814\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">This is as likely to happen as the renderings shared by the A\u2019s.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>While we couldn\u2019t find anyone saying (rumor or news report) the monorail is shutting down, it seems our Tweet was interpreted that way by some people, as the official Twitter account of the Las Vegas Monorail posted a response to a \u201creport\u201d we presumably missed.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">The report that the Las Vegas Monorail is winding down operations is 100% inaccurate. The Monorail is operating very successfully and the LVCVA has no plans to cease operations.<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 lvmonorail (@lvmonorail) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/lvmonorail\/status\/1777131977096966376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">April 8, 2024<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>In case that embedded Tweet goes away someday, it simply said, \u201cThe report that the Las Vegas Monorail is winding down operations is 100% inaccurate. The Monorail is operating very successfully and the LVCVA has no plans to cease operations.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Again, despite upwards of 15 minutes of relentless investigative reporting, we have been unable find any report or rumor the monorail is \u201cwinding down\u201d or words to that effect.<\/p>\n<p>We did question the \u201coperating very successfully\u201d aspect of the Tweet, as we\u2019d always assumed the monorail operates at a deficit, as it has from day one. It has filed bankruptcy twice.<\/p>\n<p>A rep from the LVCVA corrected our incorrect assumption, \u201cThe LVCVA purchased the Monorail in December 2020 and resumed operations in May 2021. Since then, ridership and revenue have met or exceeded projections. In 2023, the monorail carried more than 5.5 million passengers, the highest ridership since 2009. Since July 2023, the monorail has earned more than $8 million in net revenue, significantly more than the cost to operate and maintain the system.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s right, The Las Vegas monorail made $8 million net revenue since July 2023. \u201cNet\u201d means \u201cafter expenses,\u201d also known as \u201cprofit.\u201d Color us shocked. The monorail doesn\u2019t even go to the airport.<\/p>\n<p>It costs about $500,000 to operate the monorail each year, so the monorail is operating in the black according to the LVCVA. Apparently, what they say about assuming is true.\u00a0Let\u2019s pause for a moment while our fellow youths watch a segment from a 1970s TV show, \u201cThe Odd Couple.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"arve\" data-mode=\"normal\" data-oembed=\"1\" data-provider=\"youtube\" id=\"arve-youtube-lfvtwv5o1qs661707c0aab32859545708\" style=\"max-width:900px;\">\n<span class=\"arve-inner\"><br \/><span class=\"arve-embed arve-embed--has-aspect-ratio\" style=\"aspect-ratio: 4 \/ 3\"><br \/><span class=\"arve-ar\" style=\"padding-top:75.000000%\"\/><iframe loading=\"lazy\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen=\"\" class=\"arve-iframe fitvidsignore\" data-arve=\"arve-youtube-lfvtwv5o1qs661707c0aab32859545708\" data-src-no-ap=\"https:\/\/www.youtube-nocookie.com\/embed\/LfvTwv5o1Qs?feature=oembed&amp;iv_load_policy=3&amp;modestbranding=1&amp;rel=0&amp;autohide=1&amp;playsinline=0&amp;autoplay=0\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"675\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-presentation allow-popups allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube-nocookie.com\/embed\/LfvTwv5o1Qs?feature=oembed&amp;iv_load_policy=3&amp;modestbranding=1&amp;rel=0&amp;autohide=1&amp;playsinline=0&amp;autoplay=0\" width=\"900\"><\/iframe><br \/>\n<\/span><br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>As for the part about \u201cthe LVCVA has no plans to cease operations\u201d? That\u2019s a little trickier, because it means the LVCVA, apparently, doesn\u2019t currently have a specific plan to cease operations of the monorail. That\u2019s probably because the closure of the monorail is years away. We can barely plan what we\u2019re having for lunch today, much less something six years away.<\/p>\n<p>That does not mean, however, the LVCVA plans to keep the monorail operating forever. It can\u2019t due to the reasons we\u2019ve already stated. No new cars, no new parts. Disneyland uses the same system, and they\u2019re screwed, too.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s not a matter of whether the monorail will meet its end, but when. This has been the plan from the moment the LVCVA purchased the monorail. The only thing that\u2019s changed is the monorail is holding up better than expected.<\/p>\n<p>An LVCVA rep says, \u201cWhile the LVCVA does not intend to invest in purchasing new trains, because of a rigorous maintenance and parts replacement program, the trains have a longer lifespan than originally anticipated.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s been estimated a revamp of the monorail could cost $200 million, and that was in 2020 dollars. Nobody\u2019s signing up to make that investment, especially given the monorail\u2019s history of financial problems. Further investment in the monorail is especially unlikely given the LVCVA is funded by tax dollars. Las Vegas has enough boondoggles without dumping more tax money into another one. Las Vegas is simply boondoggled out.<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s a new transportation system in town, Elon Musk\u2019s Vegas Loop underground cavalcade of Teslas. And Musk\u2019s Boring Company is paying for it (except for the casino stations). Is it a true public transportation system? No. But it\u2019s a hoot, and Vegas loves itself a hoot.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_27859\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-27859\" style=\"width: 800px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazyload wp-image-27859\" style=\"border: 1px solid #000000;\" alt=\"Vegas Loop\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" src=\"https:\/\/www.casino.org\/vitalvegas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/las_vegas_convention_center3.jpg\"\/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-27859\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Suspend your disbelief for a minute, the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.casino.org\/vitalvegas\/confirmed-critics-of-elon-musks-vegas-loop-are-clueless\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Vegas Loop<\/a> is a blast.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>But back to the monorail ballyhoo. Or possibly skirmish. Uproar? Foofaraw? We\u2019d say furor, but a community college student would take it the wrong way and we\u2019d be canceled. We\u2019ll go with \u201cfoofaraw,\u201d as it needs to make a comeback, possibly on TikTok.<\/p>\n<p>To confuse matters further, the Las Vegas Review-Journal <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reviewjournal.com\/local\/the-strip\/monorail-to-remain-in-operation-along-strip-could-be-repurposed-in-future-3031071\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">published a story<\/a> in response to the back-and-forth online with the lede, \u201cContrary to social media rumors the Las Vegas Monorail remains on track to transport riders in the resort corridor well into the near future.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The mind reels.<\/p>\n<p>First, what social media rumor is being addressed? Who said anything was happening with the monorail in the \u201cnear future\u201d?<\/p>\n<p>Second, what in the holiest of wordmush hells does \u201cwell into the near future\u201d even mean?<\/p>\n<p>The story intended to dispel the rumor the Las Vegas monorail will be decommissioned goes on to confirm the monorail will be decommissioned.\u00a0We are not making this up. The Review-Journal story states, \u201cBut the LVCVA likely will look to repurpose it at some point when it is decommissioned in its current form.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Repurposing means the monorail will close and become something else. The LVCVA says repurposing might involve using the \u201craised guideways\u201d that hold the tracks. The story relays Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority President and CEO Steve Hill \u201c\u2026envisions a potential elevated expressway, of sorts, with a couple of lanes of traffic in each direction, potentially tying the guideways into Boring Co.\u2019s Vegas Loop operations.\u201d Today\u2019s thing that\u2019s never happening, all due respect. Unless the traffic involves Tesla unicycles.<\/p>\n<p>The Review-Journal story intended to quell rumors the monorail will close says, \u201cAnother factor that could lead to the end of the monorail is the expansion and larger use of The Boring Company\u2019s Vegas Loop operations\u2026\u201d What part of that is \u201cthe monorail is 100% not closing,\u201d again?<\/p>\n<p>The story goes on to quote Steve Hill, \u201cOur thoughts are we would like to extend this (monorail operations) as long as it makes sense to do so. That end could happen because the trains do wear out and are not replaceable.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>This is exactly the plan the LVCVA announced in 2020.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_39812\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-39812\" style=\"width: 845px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazyload wp-image-39812 size-post-thumbnail-crop-845xAUTO\" style=\"border: 1px solid #000000;\" alt=\"\" width=\"845\" height=\"563\" src=\"https:\/\/www.casino.org\/vitalvegas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/future_monorail-845x563.jpg\"\/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-39812\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">We\u2019ll have flying cars by 2030, but this will do in a pinch.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Our LVCVA contact says, \u201cThe LVCVA is committed to keeping the Monorail in service until is no longer operationally and financially feasible to do so, and there is no absolute timeline for this.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>So, it seems everyone involved in this confounding kerfuffle is correct in their own way. Nobody said there\u2019s an absolute timeline for the closure of the monorail, and there is no absolute timeline for the closure of the monorail, which is definitely closing.<\/p>\n<p>The monorail isn\u2019t closing or \u201cramping down\u201d until \u201cwell into the near future.\u201d The monorail is, however, closing down when it\u2019s no longer operationally feasible to operate it. Like everything mechanical thing in the world.<\/p>\n<p>In other words, the monorail goes away by 2030. You\u2019ll manage. Take rideshare. All the kids are doing it.<\/p>\n<p>Update (4\/10\/24): We\u2019ve been informed between the publication of Levitan\u2019s piece on Casino.org and Las Vegas Locally\u2019s Tweet, there was a post by another Twitter account, @VegasIssues. The since-deleted Tweet said something along the lines of, \u201cThe Las Vegas Monorail is going away.\u201d The Tweet went viral for some reason, getting a million impressions before it was removed. That Tweet also didn\u2019t say the monorail is closing soon. The Vegas Issues post apparently sparked Las Vegas Locally\u2019s post, and the rest is history.<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><br \/>\n<br \/>[ad_2]<br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.casino.org\/vitalvegas\/las-vegas-monorail-breeds-baffling-brouhaha\/\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[ad_1] By Scott Roeben, on April 10 2024 The fact the Las Vegas conversation is so active and passionate online is both a blessing and<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":222548,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_uf_show_specific_survey":0,"_uf_disable_surveys":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[174],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/222547"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=222547"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/222547\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/222548"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=222547"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=222547"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=222547"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}