{"id":212272,"date":"2024-03-11T23:13:36","date_gmt":"2024-03-11T23:13:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/2024\/03\/11\/top-bofa-strategist-explains-why-her-lofty-stock-market-forecast-is-still-more-1995-than-1999\/"},"modified":"2025-06-25T17:20:49","modified_gmt":"2025-06-25T17:20:49","slug":"top-bofa-strategist-explains-why-her-lofty-stock-market-forecast-is-still-more-1995-than-1999","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/2024\/03\/11\/top-bofa-strategist-explains-why-her-lofty-stock-market-forecast-is-still-more-1995-than-1999\/","title":{"rendered":"Top BofA strategist explains why her lofty stock market forecast is still \u2018more 1995\u2019 than 1999"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> [ad_1]<br \/>\n<\/p>\n<p>With unexpectedly strong economic data and investors\u2019 AI enthusiasm driving the S&amp;P 500 32% higher over the past 12 months, some experts are <a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/2024\/02\/28\/wall-streets-fomo-trading-dismal-decade-returns\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"sc-47dba8f0-0 iRbseu styledLinkColor \">worried<\/a> that the stock market is in a bubble. Bank of America head of U.S. equity and quantitative strategy Savita Subramanian definitely isn\u2019t one of them, but after raising her year-end price target for the S&amp;P 500 from 5,000 to 5,400 last week, she took the relatively unusual step of saying she\u2019d heard from quite a few market bears.<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>Subramanian said in a Monday note that she had a \u201cfull week of feedback and pushback\u201d since making her bullish call, including a direct question on a call that went something like: \u201cSavita, are you forecasting a bubble?\u201d The answer to that question is no, Subramanian insists\u2014and she\u2019s ready to address the concern.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>In an FAQ issued by <a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/company\/bank-of-america-corp\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"sc-47dba8f0-0 iRbseu styledLinkColor \">Bank of America<\/a> Research, the veteran analyst explained that despite all the fears over a potentially irrationally exuberant market, prior market bubbles have typically featured a few key factors\u2014mainly \u201ca gap between price and intrinsic value\u201d and \u201crampant speculation\u201d\u2014and the current market doesn\u2019t fit the bill. \u201cHousing in 2007, tech in 2000, tulips in 1637 are examples that tick these boxes. But the S&amp;P 500 today does not,\u201d she wrote.<\/p>\n<p>Still, with AI fervor harkening back to the internet era as it pushes some tech stocks ever higher, a few Wall Street experts have made comparisons to the dotcom bubble. Now, there\u2019s an argument over whether we\u2019re <a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/2023\/06\/12\/ai-dot-com-boom-tech-analyst-dan-ives\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"sc-47dba8f0-0 iRbseu styledLinkColor \">repeating 1995<\/a>, and the tech bull run is just getting started, or whether it\u2019s more like <a href=\"https:\/\/citywire.com\/pro-buyer\/news\/markets-are-starting-to-party-like-it-s-1999\/a2436441#:~:text=Market%20concentration.&amp;text=And%2C%20just%20as%20in%201999,in%20the%20first%20chart%20below.\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"sc-47dba8f0-0 iRbseu styledLinkColor \">1999<\/a>, and a crash is right around the corner.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Subramanian reassured readers that, in her view, it\u2019s \u201cmore 1995.\u201d From investors\u2019 relatively subdued sentiment levels to rising productivity and the fundamental strength of Big Tech leadership, this isn\u2019t a bubble just yet.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Stocks are overvalued, right?<\/h2>\n<p>The first criticism of Subramanian\u2019s bullish prediction for the S&amp;P 500 has to do with market valuations. The S&amp;P 500 currently trades at roughly 20.5 times forward earnings, compared with an average of 15.8 since 1986, according to BofA data.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe gap between price and intrinsic value is high, based on snapshot P\/E multiples,\u201d Subramanian admitted. \u201cBut the ex\u2013Magnificent Seven trades closer to long-term average multiples, and, more importantly, today\u2019s index lacks comparability to prior decades\u2019, in our view.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The veteran strategist noted that highly valued Big Tech stocks are obscuring the true valuation of the overall market. To her point, the Magnificent Seven\u2014a group that includes <a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/company\/microsoft\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"sc-47dba8f0-0 iRbseu styledLinkColor \">Microsoft<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/company\/alphabet\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"sc-47dba8f0-0 iRbseu styledLinkColor \">Google<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/company\/apple\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"sc-47dba8f0-0 iRbseu styledLinkColor \">Apple<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/company\/nvidia\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"sc-47dba8f0-0 iRbseu styledLinkColor \">Nvidia<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/company\/tesla\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"sc-47dba8f0-0 iRbseu styledLinkColor \">Tesla<\/a>, Meta, and Amazon\u2014trade at roughly 38 times their <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lpl.com\/research\/blog\/are-magnificent-seven-valuations-warranted.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"sc-47dba8f0-0 iRbseu styledLinkColor \">trailing<\/a> 12-month earnings, compared with 23 times for the S&amp;P 500 as a whole.<\/p>\n<p>Subramanian also pointed out that the S&amp;P 500\u2019s constituents are quite different from what they used to be, which makes comparing the index\u2019s valuation with its historical average less valuable.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cValuation matters. But comparing a trailing P\/E today to a trailing P\/E of prior decades makes little sense given the index\u2019s mix shi\u017ft,\u201d she wrote. \u201cToday\u2019s S&amp;P 500 is half as levered, is higher quality, and has similar or lower earnings volatility than in prior decades.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">But are investors too euphoric?<\/h2>\n<p>The second most common feature in any stock market bubble is euphoria. And surging AI stocks, led by the 278% rise in Nvidia over the past 12 months, have some arguing that investors are pretty enthusiastic, but Subramanian used some of BofA\u2019s data to push back on that idea.<\/p>\n<p>She noted that U.S. equity investors\u2019 excitement has been \u201cring-fenced\u201d to themes like AI, but overall sentiment is \u201cnowhere near bullish levels of prior market peaks.\u201d In fact, investor sentiment is right around where it was in 1995, according to BofA data. \u201cSentiment is neutral despite pushback we hear that sentiment is \u2018full bull,\u2019\u201d Subramanian wrote.<\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><span style=\"box-sizing:border-box;display:block;overflow:hidden;width:initial;height:initial;background:none;opacity:1;border:0;margin:0;padding:0;position:relative\"><span style=\"box-sizing:border-box;display:block;width:initial;height:initial;background:none;opacity:1;border:0;margin:0;padding:0;padding-top:66.69921875%\"\/><img alt=\"\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP\/\/\/yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"responsive\" style=\"position:absolute;top:0;left:0;bottom:0;right:0;box-sizing:border-box;padding:0;border:none;margin:auto;display:block;width:0;height:0;min-width:100%;max-width:100%;min-height:100%;max-height:100%;object-fit:contain;background-size:contain;background-position:0% 0%;filter:blur(20px);background-image:url(&quot;data:image\/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAEAAAABCAYAAAAfFcSJAAAADUlEQVR42mO8fv1mPQAIHAMIsIR6agAAAABJRU5ErkJggg==&quot;)\"\/><noscript><img alt=\"\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"responsive\" style=\"position:absolute;top:0;left:0;bottom:0;right:0;box-sizing:border-box;padding:0;border:none;margin:auto;display:block;width:0;height:0;min-width:100%;max-width:100%;min-height:100%;max-height:100%;object-fit:contain\" sizes=\"100vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lh7-us.googleusercontent.com\/-i7uBCa_CVV1e_JApt7Zg2PNVuCQzsEq8PxCkwK04fuYjjAaEcL9F6t3JIOdVMTsTzIKtJqRTKmqguRR08DGezuP5myZ6UGlRFmE3hiY0crkCzzFQ-PTnG16lWh41_Og6rGsTkzR1-ujYHWWYmpq14s?w=320&amp;q=75 320w, https:\/\/lh7-us.googleusercontent.com\/-i7uBCa_CVV1e_JApt7Zg2PNVuCQzsEq8PxCkwK04fuYjjAaEcL9F6t3JIOdVMTsTzIKtJqRTKmqguRR08DGezuP5myZ6UGlRFmE3hiY0crkCzzFQ-PTnG16lWh41_Og6rGsTkzR1-ujYHWWYmpq14s?w=480&amp;q=75 480w, https:\/\/lh7-us.googleusercontent.com\/-i7uBCa_CVV1e_JApt7Zg2PNVuCQzsEq8PxCkwK04fuYjjAaEcL9F6t3JIOdVMTsTzIKtJqRTKmqguRR08DGezuP5myZ6UGlRFmE3hiY0crkCzzFQ-PTnG16lWh41_Og6rGsTkzR1-ujYHWWYmpq14s?w=576&amp;q=75 576w, https:\/\/lh7-us.googleusercontent.com\/-i7uBCa_CVV1e_JApt7Zg2PNVuCQzsEq8PxCkwK04fuYjjAaEcL9F6t3JIOdVMTsTzIKtJqRTKmqguRR08DGezuP5myZ6UGlRFmE3hiY0crkCzzFQ-PTnG16lWh41_Og6rGsTkzR1-ujYHWWYmpq14s?w=768&amp;q=75 768w, https:\/\/lh7-us.googleusercontent.com\/-i7uBCa_CVV1e_JApt7Zg2PNVuCQzsEq8PxCkwK04fuYjjAaEcL9F6t3JIOdVMTsTzIKtJqRTKmqguRR08DGezuP5myZ6UGlRFmE3hiY0crkCzzFQ-PTnG16lWh41_Og6rGsTkzR1-ujYHWWYmpq14s?w=1024&amp;q=75 1024w, https:\/\/lh7-us.googleusercontent.com\/-i7uBCa_CVV1e_JApt7Zg2PNVuCQzsEq8PxCkwK04fuYjjAaEcL9F6t3JIOdVMTsTzIKtJqRTKmqguRR08DGezuP5myZ6UGlRFmE3hiY0crkCzzFQ-PTnG16lWh41_Og6rGsTkzR1-ujYHWWYmpq14s?w=1280&amp;q=75 1280w, https:\/\/lh7-us.googleusercontent.com\/-i7uBCa_CVV1e_JApt7Zg2PNVuCQzsEq8PxCkwK04fuYjjAaEcL9F6t3JIOdVMTsTzIKtJqRTKmqguRR08DGezuP5myZ6UGlRFmE3hiY0crkCzzFQ-PTnG16lWh41_Og6rGsTkzR1-ujYHWWYmpq14s?w=1440&amp;q=75 1440w\" src=\"https:\/\/lh7-us.googleusercontent.com\/-i7uBCa_CVV1e_JApt7Zg2PNVuCQzsEq8PxCkwK04fuYjjAaEcL9F6t3JIOdVMTsTzIKtJqRTKmqguRR08DGezuP5myZ6UGlRFmE3hiY0crkCzzFQ-PTnG16lWh41_Og6rGsTkzR1-ujYHWWYmpq14s?w=1440&amp;q=75\"\/><\/noscript><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Overall, for Subramanian, despite the stock market\u2019s surge over the past year, the S&amp;P 500 \u201clacks signs\u201d of a bubble. \u201cIn our view, this bull market has legs,\u201d she wrote, adding \u201ctoday is 1995, not 1999.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The bears\u2019 take<\/h2>\n<p>While Subramanian has made the case for the stock market to experience another banner year in 2024, there are always bears dishing out warnings. Just this week, Michael Gayed, a portfolio manager at Tidal Financial Group, <a href=\"https:\/\/uk.finance.yahoo.com\/news\/stock-market-bubble-ready-pop-122048238.html?guccounter=1&amp;guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&amp;guce_referrer_sig=AQAAALXRhKICaHFNbzaVBnXxUARMYSzvjCa3ioUqMG9fFqaUMzZ1NwzXuGm0z-pqzXgsHtUdIjn1KUndK_9_AfJgDpLmKpSw8-4SFcAcgfU-7XfHQLHAWjhnh5_xkQQibt8Z_5vCrRTj4g3aUYgEb508Etpl8ZXVfwZv6INzPsCCstqY\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"sc-47dba8f0-0 iRbseu styledLinkColor \">told <em>The<\/em> <em>Motley Fool<\/em><\/a> that \u201cwe\u2019re in a lot of trouble\u201d and that \u201call bubbles end.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Investment banks aren\u2019t as worried about a true bubble, but there are a few big-name bears out there, including Morgan Stanley\u2019s chief investment officer and chief U.S. equity strategist, Mike Wilson, who sees the S&amp;P 500 dropping roughly 12% to 4,500 over the next 12 months. Wilson isn\u2019t arguing we\u2019re in a bubble, but he notes that 90% of the S&amp;P 500\u2019s \u201chistoric\u201d 25% rally since October has been driven by rising valuations instead of improving earnings.<\/p>\n<p>The CIO explained in a Monday note that he believes the market is being driven by \u201cambiguity\u201d and \u201cliquidity\u201d this year, which means investors should remain vigilant for a correction.<\/p>\n<p>As for the ambiguity part of the market equation, Wilson pointed to \u201cconflicting data\u201d in the economy and stock market that could be cause for concern. Strong economic growth with muted earnings; rising stock market valuations with a more hawkish Fed; these aren\u2019t the typical combinations that you\u2019d expect. Economic growth usually drives corporate earnings, and the threat of higher rates is supposed to decrease stock market valuations. So what\u2019s to blame for the conflicting data?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe think the current policy mix explains many of the disconnects that have been hard to reconcile from an economic, earnings, and performance standpoint,\u201d Wilson wrote.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Federal government spending via the Inflation Reduction Act and CHIPS Act is driving spending and hiring by private construction and manufacturing companies, keeping economic growth alive, according to the <a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/company\/morgan-stanley\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"sc-47dba8f0-0 iRbseu styledLinkColor \">Morgan Stanley<\/a> CIO. But there\u2019s an issue with this spending that could explain why earnings aren\u2019t as strong as recent economic data: \u201cWhile these programs are helping to keep the economy humming, they are also crowding out the private sector as they impact the cost of labor, materials, and capital,\u201d Wilson said.<\/p>\n<p>So Wilson\u2019s \u201cambiguity\u201d\u2014or conflicting data points in the economy compared with the stock market\u2014can partly be explained by rising federal government spending. But the second part of the equation is liquidity, which helps to explain the difference in the stock market\u2019s strong performance compared with its relatively muted earnings growth, according to Wilson.<\/p>\n<p>This is where the reverse repo facility comes in. In order to help pay for the federal government\u2019s large budget deficit, the Federal Reserve allows private sector companies to earn a little extra money, often through an intermediary, by essentially lending money to the Federal Reserve overnight. These companies buy U.S. Treasuries and then agree to sell them back at a higher price at a later date, earning yield but providing the Fed with cash over a short term. This is used as a tool by the Fed to put a floor under short-term interest rates, but it also leads to rising liquidity. \u201cIn our view, that liquidity has helped to elevate asset prices broadly, led by some of the more speculative areas of the equity market\/asset classes,\u201d Wilson explained.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Wilson\u2019s ambiguity and liquidity argument is a long, detailed way of saying \u201cbe careful\u201d to investors, because the factors driving market gains may not be sustainable. \u201cWith these dynamics now better understood by the market, the burden is now likely on earnings\/fundamentals to show more material improvement,\u201d Wilson concluded.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-cy=\"subscriptionPlea\">Subscribe to the CFO Daily newsletter to keep up with the trends, issues, and executives shaping corporate finance. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.fortune.com\/newsletters\/cfodaily?&amp;itm_source=fortune&amp;itm_medium=article_tout&amp;itm_campaign=cfo_daily\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"sc-47dba8f0-0 iRbseu styledLinkColor \">Sign up<\/a> for free.<\/div>\n<p>[ad_2]<br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/2024\/03\/11\/is-stock-market-bubble-magnificent-7-bank-of-america-outlook\/\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[ad_1] With unexpectedly strong economic data and investors\u2019 AI enthusiasm driving the S&amp;P 500 32% higher over the past 12 months, some experts are worried<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":212273,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_uf_show_specific_survey":0,"_uf_disable_surveys":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[149],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/212272"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=212272"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/212272\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":338720,"href":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/212272\/revisions\/338720"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/212273"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=212272"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=212272"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michigandigitalnews.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=212272"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}